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		<title>Obsidian Smoke Rings Album</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/obsidian-smoke-rings-album/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>- Purchase the compact disc of Obsidian Smoke Rings.
- Purchase the MP3 package of Obsidian Smoke Rings, encoded in a high-quality, 320 kbps bitrate (instant download from Lulu.com includes liner notes and artwork &#8211; about 130MB).*

- Compare Formats
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>- <strong><a href="http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=osr.7328214" target="_blank">Purchase the compact disc</a></strong> of Obsidian Smoke Rings.</p>
<p>- <strong><a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/657154" title="Download high-quality Obsidian Smoke Rings from Lulu">Purchase the MP3 package</a></strong> of Obsidian Smoke Rings, encoded in a high-quality, 320 kbps bitrate (instant download from Lulu.com includes liner notes and artwork &#8211; about 130MB).*<br />
<span id="more-19"></span><br />
- <em><a href="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/formatcomparison.html" target="_blank">Compare Formats</a></em></p>
<p><center><img src="http://www.phydeau.org/images/ukor-osr-logo-idea-2.png" alt="Obsidian Smoke Rings Logo - Â© 2003 Joshua Chalifour" /></center><center> </center>In addition, the links below will allow you to download, <em>at no-cost</em>, individual 128 kbps tracks as Ogg or MP3 files from the Internet Archive&#8217;s <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=opensource_audio" target="_blank">Open Source Audio</a> collection.</p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr01_LaFeeVerte&amp;id=724" target="_blank">La Fée Verte</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr02_BackwardsCerebralHeartbeat&amp;id=725" target="_blank">Backwards Cerebral Heartbeat</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr03_TimeAsAPleasantSuicide&amp;id=726" target="_blank">Time as a Pleasant Suicide</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr04_PinkBayouSunsetSunrise&amp;id=727" target="_blank">Pink Bayou Sunset Sunrise</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr05_WeavingAMeltingDoor&amp;id=728" target="_blank">Weaving a Melting Door</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr06_MesmerRegression&amp;id=729" target="_blank">Mesmer Regression</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr07_KeyholeDeity&amp;id=730" target="_blank">Keyhole Deity</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr08_Softs&amp;id=731" target="_blank">Softs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr09_FermentedESPTrigger&amp;id=732" target="_blank">Fermented ESP Trigger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr10_PersephonianThoughts&amp;id=733" target="_blank">Persephonian Thoughts</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/photo-art-and-video/persephonian-thoughts-video-film/">video-film</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr11_GuinnessHeadCascade&amp;id=734" target="_blank">Guinness Head Cascade</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&amp;collectionid=ukor_osr12_DrinkFriendsDrink&amp;id=735" target="_blank">Drink Friends Drink</a></li>
</ol>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;<br />
* Note:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar with the <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/" target="_blank">Ogg Vorbis</a> format, it is similar to MP3 (but Ogg is liberated). Our full album downloads are provided as a package of files (the individual album tracks, liner notes, and cover art).<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Neither UKOR nor Phy-d&#8217;eau is responsible for making sure your system can support our downloads or file formats. We are providing this information only in an effort to help, but we cannot provide you with any deeper assistance in this regard.</strong></p>
<p>To play Ogg and MP3 files:</p>
<p><strong>Linux</strong></p>
<p>- KDE media player <a href="http://amarok.kde.org/" target="_blank">Amarok</a><br />
- Gnome media player <a href="http://www.xmms.org/" target="_blank">XMMS</a><br />
- Other <a href="http://www.vorbis.com" target="_blank">Ogg resources</a><br />
- Other <a href="http://www.mpg123.de/" target="_blank">MP3 players</a> and <a href="http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.html" target="_blank">resources</a></p>
<p><strong>Macintosh</strong></p>
<p>- OSX media player <a href="http://www.whamb.com/?heading=overviewâŒ©=en" target="_blank">Whamb</a> and from the <a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/whamb.html" target="_blank">Apple web site</a><br />
- OS9 and OSX media player <a href="http://www.nouturn.com/oggdrop/download.html" target="_blank">Ogg Drop</a><br />
- Other Ogg <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_mac.psp" target="_blank">resources</a></p>
<p><strong>Windows</strong></p>
<p>- Recent versions of <a href="http://www.winamp.com/" target="_blank">Winamp</a> (highly recommended) over Windows media player. Other <a href="http://www.nullsoft.com/" target="_blank">Nullsoft</a><br />
- Other <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp" target="_blank">Ogg resources</a><br />
- Other <a href="http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.html" target="_blank">MP3 resources</a> and <a href="http://www.msboycott.com/thealt/alts/mediaplayer.shtml" target="_blank">alternatives</a> information</p>
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		<title>Drink Friends Drink</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/drink-friends-drink/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour &#038; Andrew Ehrhardt</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again.
The bottle will be empty,
But not before the end.

I've traveled near and far,
and now I'm back to stay,
Had enough travelin',
enough of the wanderin' way.

I saw the stars o'er Mexico,
'neath her thighs spread wide.
She said, "Stay!", Lord I had to go,
Though in her belly grew my pride.

Drink friends, drink,
and friends [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><pre>Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again.
The bottle will be empty,
But not before the end.

I've traveled near and far,
and now I'm back to stay,
Had enough travelin',
enough of the wanderin' way.

I saw the stars o'er Mexico,
'neath her thighs spread wide.
She said, "Stay!", Lord I had to go,
Though in her belly grew my pride.

Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again,
the bottle will be empty,
but not until the end.

Waking somewhere in the East,
I couldn't see nor feel,
Drinking hard, sans surcease,
With the devil I made my deal.

"Son, be careful what you ask,
take care with what you say,
You might try to fit the mask,
But the truth gets in the way."

Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again,
though the bar be empty,
there's more 'fore the end.

"You can leave 'em in the alley,
You can leave 'em in the night,
But there ain't no son o' Sally,
Won't let you go without a fight."

Well I heard those words and they rang true,
Though the goat himself had said it,
I wanted out; to 'scape my due,
And profferred my soul for credit.

Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again,
the promise may be empty,
a bargain without end.

The goat just smiled -- winked one eye,
Which kind of made me shudder,
"The answer's easy -- stay a while,
The end could be another."

When he was done and satisfied,
and we had shaken hands,
to his work he fled and hied,
to still my sired bands.

Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again,
their bellies will be empty,
but thus it is an end.

I've got my hidden pleasures
hidden sorrows, hidden truths,
and nigh forgotten treasures,
that the whiskey never soothes.

Haunted by their ghosts,
and their long aborted cries,
though forgotten are their hosts,
yet remembered are their eyes.

Drink friends, drink,
and friends let's drink again.
The bottle now is emptied,
and so we're at the end.</pre>
<p><em>Track Twelve of the Obsidian Smoke Rings Album.</em></p>
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		<title>La Fée Verte</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/la-fee-verte/</link>
		<comments>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/la-fee-verte/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2003 17:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>
Ma tasse est toujours
pleine à ras bords dans la mer.

La fée verte met les
rêves dans ma bouche
et prend les mains de la mer.

J'ai jetée le berceau d'eau perdu
au ciel--
qui a brisé en mille morceaux.

Le monde sommeille,
il ne soigne pas
mes mains pénibles ou
ma bouche en plein rêves.
Track One of the Obsidian Smoke Rings Album.
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Ma tasse est toujours
pleine à ras bords dans la mer.

La fée verte met les
rêves dans ma bouche
et prend les mains de la mer.

J'ai jetée le berceau d'eau perdu
au ciel--
qui a brisé en mille morceaux.

Le monde sommeille,
il ne soigne pas
mes mains pénibles ou
ma bouche en plein rêves.</pre>
<p><em>Track One of the Obsidian Smoke Rings Album.</em></p>
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		<title>Panasonic Songbird Album</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/panasonic-songbird-album/</link>
		<comments>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/panasonic-songbird-album/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>- Purchase the compact disc of Panasonic Songbird.
- Purchase the MP3 package of Panasonic Songbird, encoded in a high-quality, 320 kbps bitrate (instant download from Lulu.com includes liner notes and artwork &#8211; about 100MB).*

- Compare Formats
In addition, the links below will allow you to download, at no-cost, individual 128kbps tracks as Ogg or MP3 files [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>- <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=ukor.6526923">Purchase the compact disc</a></strong> of Panasonic Songbird.</p>
<p>- <strong><a title="Download high-quality Panasonic Songbird from Lulu" href="http://www.lulu.com/content/657122">Purchase the MP3 package</a></strong> of Panasonic Songbird, encoded in a high-quality, 320 kbps bitrate (instant download from Lulu.com includes liner notes and artwork &#8211; about 100MB).*<br />
<span id="more-22"></span><br />
- <em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/formatcomparison.html">Compare Formats</a></em></p>
<p><center><img alt="Panasonic Songbird Logo - Â© 2002 Joshua Chalifour" src="http://www.phydeau.org/images/doc-55.png" /></center>In addition, the links below will allow you to download, <em>at no-cost</em>, individual 128kbps tracks as Ogg or MP3 files from the Internet Archive&#8217;s <a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=opensource_audio">Open Source Audio</a> collection.</p>
<ol>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps01_oilysprings&#038;id=510">Oily Springs</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps02_hymnyield&#038;id=511">Hymn of Yield</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps03_hearttexas&#038;id=512">Heart of Texas</a> &#8211; <a href="ftp://ftp.phydeau.org/down/ukor/UKOR__HeartOfTexasVid.mpg">video (.mpg)</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps04_dirtylateboys&#038;id=513">Dirty, Late, and the Boys</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps05_curiousballoon8&#038;id=514">A Curious Balloon 8</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps06_impsfindwire&#038;id=515">Imps Find Wire</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps07_lamptreelightoil&#038;id=516">Lamptree Light Oil</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps08_pouruslilmonstrosity&#038;id=517">Pour Us Little Monstrosity</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps09_wintereidola&#038;id=518">Winter Eidola</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps10_muscribbleic&#038;id=519">Muscribbleic</a></li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-download-options.php?collection=opensource_audio&#038;collectionid=ukor_ps11_deafnightmaresmboxballerina&#038;id=520">Deaf Nightmares of a Music Box Ballerina</a></li>
</ol>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>* Note:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar with the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vorbis.com/">Ogg Vorbis</a> format, it is similar to MP3 (but Ogg is liberated). Our full album downloads are provided as a package of many files (the individual album tracks, liner notes, and cover art).<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Neither UKOR nor Phy-d&#8217;eau is responsible for making sure your system can support our downloads or file formats. We are providing this information only in an effort to help, but we cannot provide you with any deeper assistance in this regard.</strong></p>
<p>To play Ogg and MP3 files:</p>
<p><strong>Linux</strong></p>
<p>- KDE media player <a target="_blank" href="http://amarok.kde.org/">Amarok</a><br />
- Gnome media player <a target="_blank" href="http://www.xmms.org/">XMMS</a><br />
- Other <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vorbis.com">Ogg resources</a><br />
- Other <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mpg123.de/">MP3 players</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.html">resources</a></p>
<p><strong>Macintosh</strong></p>
<p>- OSX media player <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whamb.com/?heading=overviewâŒ©=en">Whamb</a> and from the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/whamb.html">Apple web site</a><br />
- OS9 and OSX media player <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nouturn.com/oggdrop/download.html">Ogg Drop</a><br />
- Other Ogg <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_mac.psp">resources</a></p>
<p><strong>Windows</strong></p>
<p>- Recent versions of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.winamp.com/">Winamp</a> (highly recommended) over Windows media player. Other <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nullsoft.com/">Nullsoft</a> information<br />
- Other <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp">Ogg resources</a><br />
- Other <a target="_blank" href="http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.html">MP3 resources</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.msboycott.com/thealt/alts/mediaplayer.shtml">alternatives</a></p>
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		<title>Hymn of Yield</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/hymn-of-yield/</link>
		<comments>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/hymn-of-yield/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2002 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>
Oh tides, rise for hours,
great tides rise this hour,
	to air 'n earth flee I, so dour.

Care and cold and lust and life
summer dress with cloth--my wife.
Shores defined your eyes and mine.
Now sullen flows wash this line,
which banked-wide the floods of time.

Oh, tides rise for hours,
great tides rise this hour,
	to air 'n earth flee I--not I.

Track [...]]]></description>
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Oh tides, rise for hours,
great tides rise this hour,
	to air 'n earth flee I, so dour.

Care and cold and lust and life
summer dress with cloth--my wife.
Shores defined your eyes and mine.
Now sullen flows wash this line,
which banked-wide the floods of time.

Oh, tides rise for hours,
great tides rise this hour,
	to air 'n earth flee I--not I.
</pre>
<p><i>Track Two of the Panasonic Songbird Album.</i></p>
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		<title>Caves and Tropics Album</title>
		<link>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/caves-and-tropics-album/</link>
		<comments>http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/caves-and-tropics-album/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Chalifour</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music and Lyrics]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<br/>UnKindness Of Ravens' first album - 1991-1999]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>UKOR&#8217;s first album, <b>Caves and Tropics</b>, is no longer available for purchase. We are making it possible to download the album but we strongly recommend (strongly warn?) that only diehard UKOR fans attempt to listen to it.<br />
<span id="more-24"></span>Save your ears unnecessary distress by simply downloading or even buying our <a href="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/panasonic-songbird-album/">Panasonic Songbird</a> or <a href="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/obsidian-smoke-rings-album/">Obsidian Smoke Rings</a> albums, rather than listening to Caves and Tropics.<br />
<center>Caves and Tropics CD cover</font></center></a><br />
<center><img src="http://www.phydeau.org/ukor/coverBuyIcon.jpg"></center></p>
<p>You may download the entire album in Ogg format from the <a href="http://www.phydeau.org/down/ukor/UKOR__Caves_and_Tropics.tar.gz">Phy-d&#8217;eau FTP site</a>. The package also includes liner notes and artwork. Note, the album is about 60MB&#8211;downloading from a 56k modem could take several hours. DSL and Cable users will not have to wait as long.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Note:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar with the <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/" target="_blank">Ogg Vorbis</a> format, it is similar to MP3 but unlike .mp3, .ogg is liberated and often provides better sound quality in a smaller file size. Our download is provided as one package of many files (the individual album tracks). That means you will be  downloading a .tar.gz file (compressed archive of files). After you download this one file, you must extract (unzip) the songs from it, in order to play them&#8211;don&#8217;t be scared, this is easy and very likely will be almost automatic in whatever system you&#8217;re using. In case you do experience any problems listening to the files (other than mental and emotional anxiety), the following is a list of programs/information for different types of systems, that will help you download, extract, and listen to our music.</p>
<p><b>To decompress the package:</b></p>
<p><center>Linux</center><br />
- Guide to <a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html" target="_blank">un-tar</a><br />
- Guide to <a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/gzip/manual/gzip.html" target="_blank">un-gzip</a><br />
- Utility (KDE) <a href="http://perso.wanadoo.fr/coquelle/karchiver/" target="_blank">Karchiver</a></p>
<p><center>Macintosh</center><br />
- Utility <a href="http://www.stuffit.com/expander/macindex.html" target="_blank">Stuffit Expander</a></p>
<p><center>Windows</center><br />
- Utility <a href="http://www.iceows.com/" target="_blank">ICEOWS</a></p>
<p><b>To play Ogg files:</b></p>
<p><center>Linux</center><br />
- KDE media player <a href="http://amarok.kde.org/" target="_blank">Amarok</a><br />
- Gnome media player <a href="http://www.xmms.org/" target="_blank">XMMS</a><br />
- Other Ogg <a href="http://www.vorbis.com" target="_blank">resources</a></p>
<p><center>Macintosh</center><br />
- OSX media player <a href="http://www.whamb.com/?heading=overview&#038;lang=en" target="_blank">Whamb</a> and from the <a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/whamb.html" target="_blank">Apple web site</a>.<br />
- OS9 and OSX media player <a href="http://www.nouturn.com/oggdrop/download.html" target="_blank">Ogg Drop</a><br />
- Other <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_mac.psp" target="_blank">resources</a></p>
<p><center>Windows</center><br />
- Recent versions of <a href="http://www.winamp.com/" target="_blank">Winamp</a> (highly recommended) over Windows media player. Other <a href="http://www.nullsoft.com/" target="_blank">Nullsoft</a> information<br />
- Other <a href="http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp" target="_blank">resources</a></p>
<p><b>To download from an FTP site:</b></p>
<p><center>Linux</center><br />
- KDE ftp program <a href="http://kbear.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">Kbear</a><br />
- Gnome ftp program <a href="http://www.gftp.org" target="_blank">GFTP</a><br />
- Command line <a href="http://www.ncftpd.com/ncftp/" target="_blank">NcFTP</a></p>
<p><center>Macintosh</center><br />
- OS 7, 8, 9, and X <a href="http://www.fetchsoftworks.com/" target="_blank">Fetch</a><br />
- OSX <a href="http://www.panic.com/transmit/" target="_blank">Transmit</a><br />
- OSX <a href="http://www.rbrowser.com/RBrowserLite/RBrowserLite.html" target="_blank">RBrowser</a></p>
<p><center>Windows</center><br />
- Open source <a href="http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">FileZilla</a><br />
- Excellent freeware <a href="http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/leechftp/" target="_blank">LeechFTP</a> or now <a href="http://www.bitbeamer.com" target="_blank">BitBeamer</a><br />
- Primasoft <a href="http://www.primasoft.com/ftp.htm" target="_blank">AutoFTP</a><br />
- Download page for <a href="http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html" target="_blank">PuTTY</a></p>
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